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[tabaqui]

I swore these off, but who could resist Bettie??
Nobody, of course.
Gakked from roxymissrose




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[darkhavens.livejournal.com]

Rechargeables would probably be best. I have chargers. Hee!

Stunt pelvis? ::is intrigued::

[tabaqui]

Christ, me too!

Stunt Pelvis

[paperk8.livejournal.com]

I took a second job for a term, teaching Med Students how to give a general breast and pelvic exam. Simulated Patient/Instructor. So we (a teaching partner and I) would demo an ideal exam, emphasizing proper language and attitude, for maximum patient ease. Then the students would do the exam on us. Strange dynamic.
My most consistent partner's husband came up with the term 'stunt pelvis' which just stuck. Hee. Because really that's what we were.
The most important part of the pelvic exam was making sure the students could find, visualize, and identify the cervical os. Which sometimes meant multiple insertions of the speculum and assuring the students that they weren't hurting us. The idea was to have trained women (not necessarily in the medical profession, though there were a few in the program) teach the basic procedure, in order to give real live feedback. "You're not using enough pressure... you need to manipulate the tissue enough that you would feel any mass between the skin and the chest wall." "Don't rest your hand on my elbow, that feels restrictive." "Use a firm, sure touch, don't dither around too much." "Avoid the clitoris after the initial visual check." "You need to lean in more, or you won't feel the cervix... yeah it feels sort of like the tip of your nose." "Do not remove the speculum while it's still locked open, that -does- hurt." Those sorts of things. Strange, interesting, rewarding and exhausting. I'll probably do it again next year.

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[darkhavens.livejournal.com]

o.O

Actually that's a damn good idea. I've had pelvics from people who I swear have no knowledge of female anatomy! (And yes, before you ask, they were supposed to have that knowledge. ;op)

Go you!

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[paperk8.livejournal.com]

This program is becoming more widely used in med schools, so hopefully less of that will happen.

And thanks... I'm pretty proud of that work.

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[tabaqui]

WOW.
I'm sorry, that just makes me laugh and cringe at the same time.
I don't mind gettng my annual pelvic, but not five or six or whatever all damn day.
Gah.
I have a funny pelvis and the speculum HURTS like a bitch when done wrong. And they ALWAYS do it wrong, and then poke and prod and wiggle and screw around while i'm going 'Ah! Damnit! That hurts!' and they look at me like i'm a dork.
Grrrrrrrr.
Interesting thing to do. :)

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[paperk8.livejournal.com]

Max of 3 a day, thankfully. We'd only work with 4 students at a time and would swap places half way through.
If you want, I could tell you how it's supposed to be done and you could give them a tutorial. *winks* There is a way to do it where they don't move the damn thing all over the place. I wish I could tell them: 'For fuck's sake if you can't visualize the os on the first time, reinsert - it's much less painful for ME, the paying patient, than if you start angling around and rotating trying to find the damn thing.' And I will if I ever have an idiot examiner again. Go to a good women's clinic if there's one about.
Also, cramping from an exam is SOOo not uncommon. Depending on where in my cycle I was, I would take ibuprofen before the session. It helps.
Look at me teach. :P
I kind of wish that women would learn how it's supposed to be done, so they can complain when it's done badly.

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[tabaqui]

All interesting stuff.
I don't get cramps, it's just - my cervix is RIGHT THERE and they tend to bash it with a the speculum a LOT and jesus christ that hurts!
It's just - low, or something. Easy to find but also easy to poke.
I just hate when the speculum isn't quite right and they just prod around like it's not made of steel and i'm not made of meat!
Grrrrrrrrr.
I only go to female gynos, now, or planned parenthood. No more male anything for me down there! Learned my lesson.
And i may not have the vocabulary, but when it hurts i TELL them. Loudly.
I have NO problems with that. :)
I'll take any advice/knowledge you have to give, though, 'cause anything to make it easier is fine by me!

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[paperk8.livejournal.com]

Yay! Vocal woman. I <3 you. Be vocal before the pain though, if you can (see below) and a good gyno may be able to avoid some of that proddy stuff.
This may be more than you want to know but here are some ideas:
If your vaginal canal is that short they should really be trying/using a pediatric speculum (shorter and more narrow bills). This only works in certain scenarios, but I'd rather see an attempt made with that then to be bashing into you all the time.
Ask them to do the bimanual (where they insert fingers and check for cervical placement and ovaries) first, so that they'll have a better idea of your anatomy before they go in blindly (which is pretty much the deal) with the speculum. The bimanual is often done following the speculum exam, for various reasons, but that isn't a pat rule, and as long as they don't use lube for it (which might be a tad uncomfortable), it shouldn't make a difference.
Also, if right after the insertion of the speculum you don't feel pressure and a little stretching, they may not be pulling down (toward the floor) enough, which is often why they start moving around and looking for the os. The pull down is essential (to get the right placement before opening the bills) for visualization of the os, and thus sample taking.
If you have a tilted cervix, as well as a short canal, then some shifting may be necessary. But if you can figure that out (gently, hopefully) and remember to tell each new doctor you may cut some of the search and seizure off at the pass. The more you know...
Ask for a mirror - it might give you a better idea of what's going on and is more likely to make them take their time and be a little more cautious, because you're watching. If the light is right you can even get to see the os, which is pretty cool if you're not squeamish. Mucus is weird the first time you see it. Is that TMI?
Wow. I retained A LOT. *struts*
*winks* Hope it helps.

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[tabaqui]

Damn, all good stuff!
Have to go back and review when i go in for my next pelvic. Which, really, should be as soon as i'm done 'being a woman' 'cause...it's that time.
:)
Thanks so much!

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[paperk8.livejournal.com]

Do mind if I link to this thread from an entry in my journal?
Don't want your private stuff more public than it already is, if you're not cool with that.

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[tabaqui]

OH hey, why not?
I don't care. Not like i wouldn't discuss this in person - and not like i HAVEN'T, hehhe. I'm pretty much over TMI with my own personal stuff... I have no shame, and precious few squicks.
:)