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Wednesday, October 3rd, 2007 12:51 pm
Okay guys, you know i don't do this kind of post but...

What in the *fuck*?

I just called my local bookstore, which is a pretty awesome bookstore for the smallness and crumminess of this town... I needed a copy of Captain's Courageous. Not exactly an obscure book. And it's by Rudyard Kipling - not exactly an obscure author.

The person who took my order? Who is *not* a sixteen year old kid? Had no clue.

Didn't recognize the title. Didn't recognize the *author*. Had me *spell* it. I mean...good fucking lord. And was all 'oh, wow, he has a lot of books!' when the 'Kipling' list came up on her computer.

*What the fucking fuck*, people?

*flails*
*has no clue*
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Wednesday, October 3rd, 2007 06:02 pm (UTC)
It's a little scary, I think, how much gets lost from generation to generation. When I taught college, my students looked blank when I said "Tennyson" or "Keats." If I said, though, "A thing of beauty is . . ." they could complete the quotation.

On the other hand, kids these days are getting books from so many more cultures and lifestyles that there's a way to see the fragmentation of canon as pretty damn cool too.
Wednesday, October 3rd, 2007 06:08 pm (UTC)
Are people not Kipling anymore *g* Have they never heard of Kim or The Jungle Book or Gunga Din or ...? Also all these books were made into movies. What are they teaching these days?

Shakatany
Wednesday, October 3rd, 2007 06:09 pm (UTC)
Honestly, I've found that Kipling is a lot less known here in the US than he was in Russia (where I grew up, and where he was only known in translation!). Sure, once one brings up Mowgli, people say "oh, the cartoon", but so many are surprised there is poetry involved, and OMG other books, surprisingly without cartoons to go with them.
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Wednesday, October 3rd, 2007 06:10 pm (UTC)
*sigh* Sometimes you get smacked in the face with the fact that when you have even an average intelligence, that means roughly half the people are stupider than you are. If you happen to be above the average mark, the number of seemingly brainless people goes up. There's no help for this. Intelligent people produce fewer offspring, in general, so the problem will only get worse.


/channeling Rodney McKay
Wednesday, October 3rd, 2007 06:12 pm (UTC)
Sad sad sad.
No one really reads Kipling anymore, I don't think--at least, maybe they still do in England but I doubt it even there.
Wednesday, October 3rd, 2007 06:18 pm (UTC)
What. Okay, I'll admit -- I've never read Captain Courageous and wouldn't have recognized it just as a title.

But to not know Kipling? Even if you haven't personally read him? Oh my god.

Then again, I once heard a conversation among the undergrads in my building that went along the lines of: Bram Stoker? Yeah, he's that movie Dracula guy, right?

I weep.
Wednesday, October 3rd, 2007 06:30 pm (UTC)
Okay, minus points for not recognizing the title, but not knowing Kipling? Needing the words Captains Courageous spelled? What the hell? You work in a book store?
Wednesday, October 3rd, 2007 06:43 pm (UTC)
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Wednesday, October 3rd, 2007 07:03 pm (UTC)
What young people these days don't know makes my head hurt.

For instance, the Timberline Regional Library System just gave up and let people search for author names first name first.

Julia, the world is going to hell, I swear
Wednesday, October 3rd, 2007 07:04 pm (UTC)
All I can hope is that the employee was a temporary hire who was literally pulled in off the streets. Still depressing, but not as much as if he/she were a full-time staff member of a bookstore.

When I was a kid I somehow found a copy of Captains Courageous and read it for fun. Not an assignment. It was really great.
Wednesday, October 3rd, 2007 07:32 pm (UTC)
I have to admit, I've spent a lot of my life busily avoiding any of the "classics" or "serious" literature, simply because I had to read a lot of it that I didn't like in high school, but it's a phase I know I'll get over eventually, so I'm not too worried. But not to recognize the *name* Kipling, that's... man. That's really depressing.
Wednesday, October 3rd, 2007 07:54 pm (UTC)
:0

I get the same face when my students don't know who Ross Perot or Ralph Nader are. But they're 18yo n00bs, bookstore employees have no excuse!
Wednesday, October 3rd, 2007 08:09 pm (UTC)
... so if you'd gone in there and said "Do you like Kipling?" they might in all seriousness have replied "I don't know, I've never kippled"!
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