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Monday, November 12th, 2007 05:30 pm
Oh, so nice today! Rain, and wind, and thunder, and the leaves are all colors and the air smells so *good* and...*is happy*. I love Autumn.

To all my flisties who have sent the Monstrous a card or letter - thank you thank you! She really is enjoying them. You guys are the *best*.

Now, part four. I know i have *other* commitments, too. I'm just...being slow. Forgive me! All will be written.
Previous parts.

And yeah - looks like it's gonna me more like eight parts than five. :)





It was a mark, Sam thought, of how long he'd been with the angel – how long he'd been alone. In the morning he actually felt shy, surrounded by seven new faces and seven rough, drawling voices that all seemed to have something to say to him. Jostling for a place at the table, he kept his head down and ate and felt a little better when Dean deflected questions and got the ranch hands thinking about other things – telling stories and catching him up, making jokes about Sam-dog and the ranch's owner, Popeye.

Sam just heaped his plate and ate, marveling at fried apples and onions, scrambled eggs with cheese and venison sausage and biscuits and gravy and pie. Everything tasted so fucking good, he felt like he could eat all day. Breakfast was over and coats were being pulled on when the door opened and Popeye himself – Mr. Segar – hobbled inside.

He was bent and skinny and nearly crippled by arthritis, two blackthorn canes in his gnarled hands. His toothless mouth masticated the stem of a stubby pipe and wisps of gingery hair stuck out from under the wooly edge of his knitted cap. Sam had to bite his lip to keep from laughing.

"Winchester – saw that boat of a car of yours. Gonna dowse me a line for my new fence, then?"

"Yessir, Mr. Segar."

"Good, good. What're you needing in trade, then?"

"Basics, mostly. I've got some silver to trade. I need salt, some herbs – some of those beeswax candles the missus makes." Dean was winding a scarf around his neck, tucking the ends into the front of his over shirt.

Popeye nodded, chewing, the pipe bobbing up and down, little puffs of smoke drifting up from it. "We can fix you up, boy. Who's this tall drink'a water, then?"

Sam straightened under the gimlet gaze. "I'm Sam. Sam Winter. Just – I'm helping Dean on a job."

"Got some mih'ni along the Greybull River, maybe – gonna check it out," Dean explained.

Popeye eyed Sam up and down, shifting stiffly on his canes. "Know about water spirits, then?"

"Yessir."

"Good, good. Mr. Freedman – you've got it all in hand, then?"

"We're good to go, sir." Jeremiah Freedman was the foreman, a bulky black man with grey in his hair and a seamed network of scars all down the left side of his face and neck. "Just about to saddle up."

"Good, good. Gentlemen – be careful."

A chorus of 'yes, sir' followed Popeye's limping departure. Freedman turned around and clapped his hands together. "All right. Let's get our gear and get moving. Sun'll be up in half an hour and we've got work to do. Winter – you ever laid fence?"

"I, uh –"

"He's staying back," Dean interrupted, working his hand into a battered leather glove. "Cook's got some chores for him around here."

"Cook?" Freedman lifted a scarred eyebrow and Cook nodded and Sam felt, for one moment, like he was seven and being told to go play, Dad and Dean had something important to talk about. Even though the thought of digging post-holes in that wind made Sam shiver. Freedman took his coat down off a rack of deer antlers. "Good enough. Time's a wastin'." There was a general crush and confusion for a moment as everyone hurried to get wrapped up and out the door, the youngest hand – a rangy blond boy no older than nineteen – snatching a last piece of pie. Dean stepped up close to Sam, settling a knitted hat down over his ears.

"You stay here and do what Cook says. Don't think you can sneak off, and don't think I forgot your...story. We'll talk tonight."

"Dean, Jesus, I'm not gonna –"

"Just shut up and do the work. I'm low on essentials or I wouldn't even be here. You're not off the hook." Sam-dog was pushing between them, little grumbly snarl coming up out of his throat and Sam took a step back – nodded. Really – what else could he do?

"Yeah, sure, whatever. I'm not your enemy, Dean."

"You're not my brother, either." Dean stared at him for a long moment, his eyes nearly bottle-green in the lantern light, a faint blue shadow of stubble in the hollows of his cheeks. Scar across his lips that Sam wanted to ask about – wanted to touch, God...wanted to know what other scars – what other marks. What other life this Dean had had, alone with their father for so many years.

The other men were out the door – clumping across the porch and down the stairs, and Dean gave a little nod to Cook and followed. Sam-dog sprinted ahead, letting out one joyous yap. Sam watched them go – turned to catch the speculative look Cook was giving him.

"So –" Sam said, trying a little smile.

Cook pulled out his tobacco pouch and started to roll a cigarette. "So. Ever split wood?"



Sam let the axe in his hands fall with a soft thunk to the ground. He wiped his forehead on his sleeve, the borrowed sheepskin coat smelling like gun oil and cedar, soft and rough at the same time. The L of bunkhouse and storage building was stacked high with chunks of sawn logs that Sam was methodically breaking down into smaller pieces. It was harder work than he remembered, and his shoulders and belly ached from the weight of wood and the swing of the axe.

But he felt – good. Felt like he was filling out his skin – waking himself up. Felt like all that time with the angel, falling in and out of the lives of other selves was only a dream. A space of greyness and loneliness that he never, ever wanted to go back into. Not if he could stay.

He went over to the half-cord that was already stacked along the bunk house wall and retrieved the thermos that Cook had sent him out with. It was full of honey sweetened tea and he drank two cups before screwing the lid back on and going to manhandle another piece of wood off the haphazard pile. He was just picking up the axe again when Cook opened the back kitchen door.

"Grub's on, Winter. Better c'mon in."

"Awesome. What about – everybody else?"

"They're on their way in – hear that?" Cook tipped his head a little, listening, and after a moment Sam thought he could hear something over the wind. Sam-dog barking, he was pretty sure. "Bring some wood in," Cook added, and shut the door. Sam knocked a little mess of snow and wood-chips off the head of the axe and put it on top of the woodpile for later. He stacked his arms full of split logs and snagged the thermos, then kicked lightly at the door. A moment later Cook opened it up and Sam stomped his shoes clean and went inside.

Wood on the woodpile, thermos on the sink and hands washed, Sam stepped out onto the front porch, shivering in just his shirtsleeves. From the west came more barking and then a rhythmic thumping that it took a moment to recognize. Hooves – horse's hooves. Sam watched as a string of horses came around the corner of the barn, snow caught in their manes, their riders huddled down over their necks. Sam-dog was running to and fro like he was herding sheep and sharp gesture from one man – had to be Dean – sent him skimming across the ice-dotted yard to the bunkhouse.

"Hey, boy – hey...Sammy," Sam said, feeling foolish. Sam-dog sniffed at his outstretched hand and nosed it briefly, then turned and focused his attention on the horses. Everyone dismounted and someone swung the barn door open, holding it against the wind as horses and riders filed inside. The last man went in, too, and shut the door.

"They'll be a little bit yet," Cook said, startling him, and Sam turned. "They gotta un-tack 'em and rub 'em down – give 'em some'a that warm mash I made. Best come inside."

"Yeah, okay. C'mon, Sammy. You want to eat?" Sam-dog looked back and forth for a moment and then trotted inside, and Sam went in, too, happy to be out of the cold.


The second half of the day was a repeat of the first and Sam was exhausted by the time Cook called him in for dinner. The rest of the men filed in in a blue twilight, still joking and talking but subdued. Worn out from a day spent setting fence posts and stringing wire. Even with a machine to help, it was hard work, and the cold and constant wind seemed to just drain you flat. Sam sat down with a wince and a sigh, feeling every muscle in his back protest.

There were chop steaks with a thick vegetable broth ladled over them, roasted potatoes and more bread and blackberry cobbler. Everyone ate in near-silence, but the coffee and tea after seemed to perk them up and Cook and two others rolled cigarettes and talked while the rest moved onto the couches and started a low-voiced debate over what movie to watch. It was barely six o'clock but Sam felt ready to just burrow into his bunk and not come out until morning.

Dean had other ideas, though.

"Hey, Cook – I'm gonna go get my re-stock. Popeye say anything?"

"Nah – he knows you won't short us. Take what you need. He said there's a book along in with the silver that you might want."

"Great." Dean finished doing up his coat and shot a look at Sam. "C'mon, Winter."

*Hell. Just wanna sleep...* "Sure, yeah..." Sam hauled himself up off the bench and into his borrowed coat and hat – followed Dean out into the thick, iron cold of the night. A faint purple lingered along the horizon but the yard itself was dark, only light from the house and bunkhouse showing in the whirl of icy snow. Dean went to his car first and pulled a clanking canvas hold-all from the trunk, then they both trudged back to the barn, slipping inside via a smaller door that was off to one side.

The barn was warm – lit by the first electric light Sam had seen. The air was thick with the smell of wet wool and damp horse, hay and straw and grain and manure. A black and white cat blinked owlishly at them from the top of a hay bale and Dean walked down the center aisle, stopping for a moment to murmur to the bright bay horse-head that poked out over the stall door.

"I didn't know you could... I've never seen you ride a horse," Sam said, and Dean rubbed the horses' nose one last time and stepped away, heading for what looked like a workbench at the back of the barn.

"Comes with the job. Can't always rely on roads or gas, either." Dean dropped the hold-all onto the bench and unzipped it – started pulling out piece after piece of tarnished silver. Plates, a couple candlesticks, some fancy utensils and what looked like a sugar bowl and creamer.

"Where'd you get that?" Sam asked, and Dean shot him a look.

"Found it in this house up near Detroit."

"You mean you stole it?"

Dean stopped in his examination of a silver soup spoon. "The people were dead, man. Not like they needed it. Silver bullets don't come from the Bullet Fairy, you know?"

"Yeah, I know, but – Jesus, Dean!"

Dean dropped the spoon and grabbed a handful of Sam's coat – shoved him backward so he sat down, hard, on a hay bale. "Shut up. Empty house, dead people – we take what we need and move on. You should know that."

"I don't know that," Sam said, craning his neck to look up at Dean, and Dean crossed his arms and leaned back against the workbench, looking down at him.

"Then tell me what you do know. Tell me who the fuck you really are and why you think you're my brother."

"I am your brother."

"Prove it."


Part five.
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Monday, November 12th, 2007 11:59 pm (UTC)
Eek! *gnaws on fists* This is so... interesting... I'm completely captivated by the world you've created.
Tuesday, November 13th, 2007 12:05 am (UTC)
"Then tell me what you do know. Tell me who the fuck you really are and why you think you're my brother."

"I am your brother."

"Prove it."


Yes Sam, I would also like to hear your explanation and maybe between the two of us we can convince Dean your Hot I mean that your his brother.

Excellent chapter, I really like the dog. I hope the dog starts to like Sam as well.

Looking forward to the next part.
Tuesday, November 13th, 2007 12:31 am (UTC)
more please, feed my addiction! I crave...
Tuesday, November 13th, 2007 12:55 am (UTC)
Dean deflected questions and got the ranch hands thinking about other things

And for a second there I thought he was protecting his little brother. Then I remembered that he doesn't believe Sam's his brother.

"Yessir, Mr. Segar."

Soldier boy, eh? Never liked it when Dean did that. He always sounds so submissive to me.

some of those beeswax candles the missus makes.

What kind of world is it where you can't always and everywhere buy a candle when needed?

"He's staying back,"

Why? Does he want Cook to watch him? Doesn't he want to have him at his back while he's working? Is there something he doesn't want him to see?

Sam-dog was pushing between them, little grumbly snarl coming up out of his throat

Eeeeeh, protective Sammy-dog! *loves*

Sam wanted to (...) know

Oh, he's not the only one!

A space of greyness and loneliness that he never, ever wanted to go back into.

But what if he has to? Maybe this is just another job, another world, one that neds a different approach, and as soon as Sam's done what he's supposed to, the angel is going to try and pick him up again.

riders (...) had to be Dean

Hee. Dean has slight bow legs. I always thought he looked like he could ride.

Can't always rely on roads or gas

Again, what kind of world it that?

"You mean you stole it?"

Well, duh. Naive much, Sammy?

Dean dropped the spoon and grabbed a handful of Sam's coat – shoved him backward so he sat down, hard, on a hay bale. "Shut up.

He seems more than a little tense. And clearly is sensitive to being criticized.

"Prove it."

Sure, let's go to the nearest lab and have a genetic test!


Tabaqui, where is this going? Or rather, where did it come from? What happened there to have a world where eletricity and gas, shops and roads aren't a given anymore? And how where the WInchesters involved?
Tuesday, November 13th, 2007 12:58 am (UTC)
I was going to hold off until this was complete before commenting, but I just can't. I mean, every time someone calls the dog, my stomach clenches a little for Sam.

You've got me hooked on this story.
Tuesday, November 13th, 2007 01:06 am (UTC)
you are taking your time with this. It will take a lot for this hardened, wary Dean to believe Sam. Sam might have to shed some blood to prove that he is serious.
Tuesday, November 13th, 2007 01:23 am (UTC)
*squeal*

Oh this is so good.

*loves*
Tuesday, November 13th, 2007 02:03 am (UTC)
How is Sam going to prove to Dean that they are really brothers?

I can't wait for the next update. I hope Dean gives Sam a break, but I guess I don't see why he would do that.

Enjoyed the update!
Tuesday, November 13th, 2007 02:34 am (UTC)
So not only different happenings but a different world, and a different hunting lifestyle? Or is everyone just like that, and in the normal-verse Sam and Dean just didn't?

Your world is a lot bleaker, the atmosphere just has that chilly feel to it. Lovely new chapter, thank you so much for it:)
Tuesday, November 13th, 2007 02:43 am (UTC)
Mmmmm, Dean on a horse, working with all these gruff, silent men, having earned his place. Yesssssssssssssssss.

Also, the Bullet Fairy? Hee, Dean!
Tuesday, November 13th, 2007 03:20 am (UTC)
So hooked on this!
(and I think I want a Sam-dog, too :D)
(Anonymous)
Tuesday, November 13th, 2007 03:22 am (UTC)
Good chapter. Update soon. Bad cliffhanger! I want to see Sam and Alternate!Dean talk. I've noticed your pattern in updating, so I know it won't be long. I'm also glad you decided to add more.
Tuesday, November 13th, 2007 03:25 am (UTC)
Poor Sam, I bet he's tired. I adore animal-loving Dean. I'm glad Sam is making friends with Sammy. I still like Cook. (I just wish he'd stay out of my dreams-really:)
I loved this bit "Got some mih'ni along the Greybull River, maybe – gonna check it out," Dean explained.
Popeye eyed Sam up and down, shifting stiffly on his canes. "Know about water spirits, then?"
(pay no attention if you heard someone squeaking-"Yay, run-of-the-mill monsters at last" just then, because curiosity was eating me alive!*g*)

Ok, the folks on the ranch obviously know about hunters. Even if this seems a little..open..for a public conversation.

"Dean deflected questions and got the ranch hands thinking about other things"
oh yeah, Dean is very good at discretion when he wants to be- or needs to be. Not that Sam knows which it is.
And all of a sudden I'm going..Huh.
Sooo.. I'm not so surprised by roadless or rustic, and I know how hard pure beeswax candles are to find. Lotsa people use dowsers, and ranchers can be pretty superstitious. I've even thought that only traceablility and comeback issues should prevent them from accepting contributions to their operating fund from the dead who don't need it anymore.

Even if it kinda sounds like the aftermath of a war.

But- "Play money"? Going to the back of beyond because he needs salt? ? Trading for it- in silver ?
This "plague" of yours is really starting to worry me.


Thanks for writing! *Opens Cooks pie-safe with intent* Don't let me disturb you at your writing. Would you like sugar? Maybe some caffeine?
Because now I'm thinking 'this internet story-posting thing is way too slow!' (in a whiny tone of voice)
Tuesday, November 13th, 2007 04:30 am (UTC)
*hides* I honestly don't try to speculate- that way lies spoilers and disappointment. The bits do come together, though, and I don't mind letting pieces try to fall together with this, because i don't think I'm going to figure it out. It's just better than wringing my hands in suspense.
And it seems you enjoy knowing what you're doing to your fans.:)
Wednesday, November 14th, 2007 03:30 am (UTC)
meow! *bats at floating grin*

and yes, love good world-building- hence my sudden addiction.
need more pieces to poke at.
Sunday, November 18th, 2007 02:58 am (UTC)
Hey, Sorry it took me so long to reply-but thanks! Spander's not my fave,(probably why I hadn't seen your stuff before) but gimme good world-building with *Spike* in it and I won't even care who Spike's..uh, never mind. I'll just go check that out.:)
btw I do love your icon, (points)pretty much says it all, and...guh.
and no, not offended: I appreciate your thoughtfulness. I need/seek recs for good stuff. In fact, I kinda followed you back here after you asked a couple intriguing questions in another comm, just to see what you were working on.
Stalker much? no, not really, just- I discovered fanfic relatively late, it's a big world, and I'm still using dial-up, since that's what I can mostly get. (*g* I actually discovered *Supernatural* through fanfic sites, since my cable access is even less reliable than internet-living in motels can be wierd-I managed to catch a few eps, now I'm working my way through the first season on DVD)sigh. I really should break down and get DSL and a TV, now that I've moved to town.
That's one reason I've enjoyed this world so much, too- your descriptions brought up a lot of memories, some sweet, some not. Although I wasn't going to mention it, so sad we didn't get to see Cook making Cornish pasties- I ws looking forward to watching him crimp(pimp) the pasty as soon as I realized you were leaving Sam behind while the fencing crew went out! :) Especially after spending the last 2 years cooking on a woodstove-see, I wasn't kidding about Roadless and rustic!
Thanks again, tabaqui, i'm sure I'll enjoy'Babylon' and 'Scaling Heaven'.
Anyway,please don't apologize for what you choose to write. It's worth doing because you do it so well.
Slash doesn't bother me even though I'd rather read het. I'm pretty hard to offend -even Wincest would be ok, if it weren't for the OoCness of it-kinda like crack!fic w/o the humour- my (former)profession can also force the erosion of ethics, and I've seen that snowball pretty fast, so that's a personal issue; and then there's (insert rant on the really scary underlying assumptions here), but it's not the act itself that squicks me, ok?
btw-paybacks for the rec-have you seen this yet? http://intimations.org/fanfic/supernatural/Old%20Country.html
Found it in vorpalblade's recs, the very first page had me laughing so hard I had to read the rest, and then stay up the rest of the night reading the papers I logged on for in the first place. Since I still have a headache from that, I do hope you and yours are feeling better.
Thanks again, and umm. still waiting for more. Part V kinda snuck past me- didn't see it till today:(
Monday, November 19th, 2007 02:52 pm (UTC)
huh. Well, that didn't post the first time, so I'll do it again. It went something like, if you're serious about wanting this..and if I understand what you're asking about- tips about woodstove use, general rustic adpatations;
lotsa people have windmills, they always have, to pump water, and there's no reason those can't remain as a backup, even after they switched to electric pumps. Other wind and solar adaptations are popular too, and most people have generators. the power lines go down a lot, and in deep snow you might need skis or snowmobiles to get to the store.
"Cornish-pasty comm! Heee. I was *so* going to use that and then i realized that it was just too much to have them trundle food out to the line - better for everyone to come in out of the cold and take a break, warm up. Just made more sense. "
My, what an enlightened attitude you have, my dear! I wish *any* of my bosses had shared it, for anything but special circumstances. *g* Very occasionally, usually when the supervisor was worried about a blizzard closing in, we'd actually get to go in for lunch,so we wouldn't get stuck trying to come in later-usually just to see if the weather would get bad enough to stay in, or blow over. We were usually lucky if the vehicles were close enough to go get out of the wind while we ate our cold sandwiches. Some people carried thermoses of hot coffee, sometimes even soup, sometimes we'd start the engine and warm up foil packs of leftovers on the block.
Really, your original idea sounded very sensible, nice and caring to me! THe problem is time, that time of year- you HAVE to get the digging done before the ground freezes, or wait for months, so comfort is a long second. Cowboys know that. They'd probably bitch at wasting time running in and out. (These are the guys that make a real distinction between "hurt" and "hurting"- "hurt" means you can't finish the job because you really need two hands, and that broken one won't open and close- "hurting" means you can finish the job, since you can steady the post just as well with your forearm while you pound it in with the hammer in the other hand. :)not kidding.)
The hot foil-wrapped burritos I mentioned in the other comm were great- always tried to get two, one to eat and one to use as a handwarmer. (working with survey instruments inthe cold meant you couldn't even wear gloves about half the time, just too bulky for fine-tuning- i ended up with fingerless gloves over silk glove liners, all under my lined deerskin gloves-suede gets wet, and they're too cheap, never fit well enough to work in) That guy would grab a truck and run up and down the line with his cooler full of hot burritos, if he could get away- we loved him very much! (one guy I worked with had a bad habit of leaving his lunch in the truck, which was usually borrowed by some other crew during the day, so he eventually ended up with a special t-shirt that said "a fool and his lunch are soon parted")
Monday, November 19th, 2007 02:59 pm (UTC)
cont:
"I love the idea of cooking on a wood stove but have never had the chance - closest i've come is cooking over a fire, but i had foil so...not quite the same. If you have any tips,... feel free to send 'em my way"
LOL- me too, although I've done a lot of campfire cooking-The girl who rented me my cabin said she called me because I was the only person who might think the woodstove was a plus. It was a pain-took over a year to figure out how to bake cakes and quickbreads you'd want to eat. (the firebox is on one side, so you have to *spin them* to cook evenly, very carefully so they don't fall) mine was a dinky thing, not the full feature Majestic Cook would have, so although it *had* a regulator for airflow over the top and oven, the bottom and far side didn't cook very well. I fixed that by lining the base of the oven with firebrick after my turkey turned out great, except that the bottom was still pink. Even after wrestling it to turn it upside down for a while! :( the fire brick worked good for flatbreads and pizzas too though, if you started early and got them good and hot first.
Call that the first non-intuitive tip- it takes an hour to preheat a woodstove. the firebox is small, so you use kindling. resinous or very dry wood and aspen burn hot and fast, will scorch anything you try to cook. So you need several kinds/sizes of wood- hot burning, good solid long-burning heartwood, green or wet in a pinch to burn slow and maintain heat, and some smaller lumps and pieces to help regulate the oven temp as you go. I usually set the oven thermometer on the bottom, since it tended to fall off the racks when you slid things over it.
obviously, the rangetop is hottest over the firebox, cooler to the side, so you slide your pans around to get the right temp. I curdled a lot of cream sauces before I got that right. You have a little lid lifter thing that slots into the burners so you can lift them out and drop wood straight onto the fire (smoke gets in your eyes) or set a pan right in the hole if you want to, for even more heat. (cast iron everything,btw- thin pans are worthless, they burn up.)Back by the chimney works well for long slow cooking, since it's fairly even heat- I used to do a lot of that, and pan-frying, on my main stove in the living room,(most people do- why run two stoves?) and I kept the gallon size teakettle hot there too. mulled wine, anytime. mmm.
There's a damper you can open, that lets the hot air run over the oven/under the range, or blocks it and directs it right up the chimney, but that's kinda fiddly and it's best to have lots of kindling choices too.
A ranch needs a big stove, with warming ovens above, a water reservoir beside the firebox, and maybe even two ovens, with better airflow all around. (The ovens are surprisingly small inside though.)Check Lehman's Non-electric Goods catalog- (Amish supply store in Ohio) for some good pix and options. There are convection fans that you stick to the pipe, to circulate the hot rising air, and such. I don't have a link, but they used to be online.
There's usually a drawer under the firebox that catches the ash and clinkers. You dump this frequently-when it's full, the fire doesn't burn right and the oven doesn't heat. So, you need a big metal container beside the stove to dump it in-don't want to burn the house down. coal scuttles are good, but I've seen filing cabinet drawers, buckets and even big popcorn tins with blistered paint. the lid is good, because fine ash goes everywhere. When you're sure it's cool- minimum 24 hours after the last dump, IF you've stirred it to be sure there are no live coals hiding in the ash, it's safe to throw in trash or outside. Helps melt the ice on the walk, if you don't care about tracks.
oh, and once you've cooked a full meal on a woodstove, you understand the phrase "slaving over a hot stove" I used to try to get guests to move out the living room where you could breathe, and they'd laugh and tell me it wasn't that bad, but I always felt like I was running a marathon in an inferno.


Monday, November 19th, 2007 03:03 pm (UTC)
and again, jeez, but it's too much work to cut it
cont:
"I love the idea of cooking on a wood stove but have never had the chance - closest i've come is cooking over a fire, but i had foil so...not quite the same. If you have any tips,... feel free to send 'em my way"
LOL- me too, although I've done a lot of campfire cooking-The girl who rented me my cabin said she called me because I was the only person who might think the woodstove was a plus. It was a pain-took over a year to figure out how to bake cakes and quickbreads you'd want to eat. (the firebox is on one side, so you have to *spin them* to cook evenly, very carefully so they don't fall) mine was a dinky thing, not the full feature Majestic Cook would have, so although it *had* a regulator for airflow over the top and oven, the bottom and far side didn't cook very well. I fixed that by lining the base of the oven with firebrick after my turkey turned out great, except that the bottom was still pink. Even after wrestling it to turn it upside down for a while! :( the fire brick worked good for flatbreads and pizzas too though, if you started early and got them good and hot first.
Call that the first non-intuitive tip- it takes an hour to preheat a woodstove. the firebox is small, so you use kindling. resinous or very dry wood and aspen burn hot and fast, will scorch anything you try to cook. So you need several kinds/sizes of wood- hot burning, good solid long-burning heartwood, green or wet in a pinch to burn slow and maintain heat, and some smaller lumps and pieces to help regulate the oven temp as you go. I usually set the oven thermometer on the bottom, since it tended to fall off the racks when you slid things over it.
obviously, the rangetop is hottest over the firebox, cooler to the side, so you slide your pans around to get the right temp. I curdled a lot of cream sauces before I got that right. You have a little lid lifter thing that slots into the burners so you can lift them out and drop wood straight onto the fire (smoke gets in your eyes) or set a pan right in the hole if you want to, for even more heat. (cast iron everything,btw- thin pans are worthless, they burn up.)Back by the chimney works well for long slow cooking, since it's fairly even heat- I used to do a lot of that, and pan-frying, on my main stove in the living room,(most people do- why run two stoves?) and I kept the gallon size teakettle hot there too. mulled wine, anytime. mmm.
There's a damper you can open, that lets the hot air run over the oven/under the range, or blocks it and directs it right up the chimney, but that's kinda fiddly and it's best to have lots of kindling choices too.
A ranch needs a big stove, with warming ovens above, a water reservoir beside the firebox, and maybe even two ovens, with better airflow all around. (The ovens are surprisingly small inside though.)Check Lehman's Non-electric Goods catalog- (Amish supply store in Ohio) for some good pix and options. There are convection fans that you stick to the pipe, to circulate the hot rising air, and such. I don't have a link, but they used to be online.
There's usually a drawer under the firebox that catches the ash and clinkers. You dump this frequently-when it's full, the fire doesn't burn right and the oven doesn't heat. So, you need a big metal container beside the stove to dump it in-don't want to burn the house down. coal scuttles are good, but I've seen filing cabinet drawers, buckets and even big popcorn tins with blistered paint. the lid is good, because fine ash goes everywhere. When you're sure it's cool- minimum 24 hours after the last dump, IF you've stirred it to be sure there are no live coals hiding in the ash, it's safe to throw in trash or outside. Helps melt the ice on the walk, if you don't care about tracks.
oh, and once you've cooked a full meal on a woodstove, you understand the phrase "slaving over a hot stove" I used to try to get guests to move out the living room where you could breathe, and they'd laugh and tell me it wasn't that bad, but I always felt like I was running a marathon in an inferno. pies and roasts were fun, though and it was great to have that uge variable cooking surface, and to do the pot-au feu thing all the time- I like soup.


Monday, November 19th, 2007 03:05 pm (UTC)
and again, jeez, sorry, but it's too much work to cut it now
cont:
pies and roasts were fun, though and it was great to have that uge variable cooking surface, and to do the pot-au feu thing all the time- I like soup.
Splitting wood for cooking sucks. Usually you just need a splitting maul for any size log, set 'em up, knock 'em apart. turn and repeat. For smaller stuff you sometimes use a regular axe, even a hatchet. The worst part is that the smaller pieces are too light- set them up& swing as fast as u can, and still they blow over, or right off the chopping block before you can hit them. Stopping in mid swing hurts! I provided hours of entertainment for my neighbors up the hill, especially after I broke my leg and was trying to do this on crutches- in the snow. And all the local dogs would line up to watch, too. sometimes they'd grab your kindling and run off with it-it was especially fun to try to catch it as it flew. The cat would be right there with them too, and give me dirty looks when a chunk flew so close he had to move. He liked taking a dump on the block too, since it was nice and dry above the snow.
To be fair, I got frequent visits from the Wood Fairy while I was on crutches- various people would come by and split some wood and stack it, even carry it into the house, and once in a while a truck would pull up on my lawn, guys in balaclavas would chuck out a pile of split wood, then drive off again. And, when the head worked loose on the axe, the Fairy stuck some shims in to tighten it up again:)
One of the things I love about living out here- you help people when they need it, whether you like them, or not. Locks don't mean much, so you don't use them.
Last rustic tips- ANY car will go off road, if you're careful. Some are just better at it than others :)
Monday, November 19th, 2007 09:04 pm (UTC)
new bit to post today? *does goofy happy dance*
no need to reply, unless you have questions/quibbles
"totally satisfies my need for teeny, useless detail that only i care about."
well, obviously not *only* you, since I cared enough to remember and write it down:)but, yeah, what you said-I'm wierd like that. I like it that someone else cares- I had serious trouble getting useful info out of veteran woodstove cooks, at least until I had enough experience to get to the 'exchanging horror stories' stage- THEN my stepmother, who cooked 20 years on her own ranch up in the Snowys, told me she never did get breads down, only because she was surprised my pumpkin bread turned out at XMas- at last. I thoguht i was such a slow learner...
oh, the bit that didn't make it through the 'now it's posting now it's not' wierdness (sorry for the duplicate)was about racing the snow, because riding across new snow is kinda dangerous and slow,(you knew that, i know) clearing ground to find your line sucks, and drifts pile up fast to hide a marked line, and the horses-
just fyi, since it might be a useful detail-
"the rancher wants men and horses rested and fit and alert, rather then pushed to the limit and making mistakes" for future reference, horses really hate going back out once they get the idea they're done for the day, and will act up for quite a while to let you know how unfair and mean you are! -you might get some use out of that tidbit another time:) also, i'm not great on horse care, but i think if they gget warm mash and then worked too soon, they get colicky. like swimming after eating. Don't know if you had it happening that soon, though, better to ask someone who knows more about horses, if you ever need to know. plz note, this is not crit of your choices, just more gristy details for ya!
Hope any of it is usefull- Bobby has windmills? that makes me laugh, I know a guy like him, replaced the ventilation grill in his wood/auto shop with the blades/motor segment from an old circulating fan, reversed the current and attached a wire to run a light bulb for the shop!
Tuesday, November 13th, 2007 03:53 am (UTC)
love love love lovelovelove

So. much.

*spins you*
Tuesday, November 13th, 2007 04:20 am (UTC)
First off, there's gonna be more, yay! I was starting to wonder how you were gonna wind this up in five parts. It seems to be settling in for a longer haul than that.

Ooooo, what a lovely chapter. Horses! Firewood and food and Popeye! Snow! Also Sam dog continues being a dog and a cute on at that. Heh.

faces and seven rough, drawling voices that all seemed to have something to say to him. Jostling for a place at the table, he kept his head down and ate and felt a little better when Dean deflected questions and got the ranch hands thinking about other things

More of what I was saying before, it may be part of Dean not wanting to have to explain Sam's prescence or Sam having to get into backstory- but it's Dean's nature to protect. Especially Sam, even if he doesn't know it's truely and properly him. And in a way he's not, he's another Dean's Sam but I suspect that won't really matter one wit.

Popeye nodded, chewing, the pipe bobbing up and down, little puffs of smoke drifting up from it. "We can fix you up, boy. Who's this tall drink'a water, then?"

Fwehehehehehe.

Jeremiah Freedman was the foreman, a bulky black man with grey in his hair and a seamed network of scars all down the left side of his face and neck.

Nobody is untouched in this world are they? Or at least very few seem to make it around without at least a few scars and I'm sure stories behind those scars. Man whatever happened after the plague (and knowing you it's something post-apoco) must have been brutal.

"He's staying back," Dean interrupted, working his hand into a battered leather glove. "Cook's got some chores for him around here."

"Cook?" Freedman lifted a scarred eyebrow and Cook nodded and Sam felt, for one moment, like he was seven and being told to go play, Dad and Dean had something important to talk about. Even though the thought of digging post-holes in that wind made Sam shiver.


Again, it may just been Dean covering his ass but he really doesn't have to do that for Sam doesn't he? So on some level, I think he does desperately want to believe that this is his boy. So he protects him. Plus with the picture you painted of Sam a good stiff breeze could probably knock him over.

What other life this Dean had had, alone with their father for so many years.

Oh good lord. John Winchester wasn't the worst father in the world but ye gods, we all know Dean looked up to him far to much and without Sam for a buffer? ...eek.

But he felt – good. Felt like he was filling out his skin – waking himself up. Felt like all that time with the angel, falling in and out of the lives of other selves was only a dream. A space of greyness and loneliness that he never, ever wanted to go back into. Not if he could stay.

See, I'm scared of what's gonna happen if the Angel comes back. My reasoning is that Sam kept on going because of his deal and when that got... well pushed to the background he still went because he didn't really know anything else anymore. He's not going to want to go back, he's given enough. *pats the sammy*

Sam-dog looked back and forth for a moment and then trotted inside, and Sam went in, too, happy to be out of the cold.

That's my favorite line, hands down. Something about it, whether intentional or not, is this Sam. He is happy to be out of the cold, literally and figureativelly. And it's just a wonderful line.

Tuesday, November 13th, 2007 04:20 am (UTC)
(I got my first long comment notice about this one. *grin*)
Dean dropped the spoon and grabbed a handful of Sam's coat – shoved him backward so he sat down, hard, on a hay bale. "Shut up. Empty house, dead people – we take what we need and move on. You should know that."

"I don't know that," Sam said, craning his neck to look up at Dean, and Dean crossed his arms and leaned back against the workbench, looking down at him.


Sizing each other up and still in their brother roles. Dean's ordering him around and Sammy's letting him (for the time being) and it's kinda taken for granted that the other will do that.

...I'm going to quit now while there's still some story not in this comment. And I have to say, I'm not sure it's 'cause we were talking about it earlier or because I've been re-reading them but the whole atmosphere really reminds me of Little House. Could be the horses and the space and emptiness all centered around this ranch but... yeah.

Awesome, wonderful. I can't wait for more. :)
Wednesday, November 14th, 2007 04:12 am (UTC)
I will admit I wanted to live in that time period so I could have a house or more specifically one of those kitchens. I was endlessly fascinated with the idea of a drawer for flour and sugar and brown sugar and everything in it's little place. I thought it was the *coolest* thing when I was kid how those books just explained... everything my detail obsessed child person could ever want to know.

Of course over the years I've wanted to live in practically every century. There's just so many cool cultures and era's and *things* out there that I still want to experience. I'm still a little disappointed I've missed the horse era and I'm gonna miss the space era... as far as I know.
Wednesday, November 14th, 2007 07:02 pm (UTC)
I *know*. I loved that house and every little thing in it. I could picture it so perfectly in my mind and it was devestating when it was gone.

Oh yes. Edwardian, I've always had the urge to dress for dinner and lunch and a billion different things in the same day and horses and- well I'd probably miss good indoor plumbing but small price to pay.

Spaaaace. If I had to pick, I'd chose space over any era, ever. You know, if you've never seen might I suggest watching Cowboy Bebop? It is an anime but it's like my perfect idea of what I want space to be.

Wednesday, November 14th, 2007 08:38 pm (UTC)
Heh.

S'cool, just thought I'd put it out there. Just in case. :)
Wednesday, November 14th, 2007 03:03 am (UTC)
I love reading what *you're* reading into it, and where you think it's going.

See, I have no idea where it's going and I'll admit right now I'm always gonna come at it from the brother's angle. It's my favorite part about the show and fanfic. And I kinda wonder if I'm focusing *to* much on that.

Except when it's post-apoco or sci-fi and then I'll admit to loving the world more than the characters. Err... *shifty eyes* I'm glad you're enjoying my obsessing anyway?
Tuesday, November 13th, 2007 06:12 am (UTC)
don't stop there!
Tuesday, November 13th, 2007 09:45 am (UTC)
What? EIGHT NOW? *whimpers*

I am withholding my viewership until it is finished. So there. *pouts*

I like your world-building type stuff. And the people Dean knows and Sam-the-dog and Sam having to cut wood. Yis.
Tuesday, November 13th, 2007 06:12 pm (UTC)
Damn straight I'm one of those. *stern look* I have been burned too many times! *furtively checks if there's another post, because she is also weak. SO. WEAK.*

Sam-dog! I have a Sammy dog! He is, alas, not that well behaved yet. He would have jumped on Sam and licked him to death before he was allowed anywhere near Dean.
Wednesday, November 14th, 2007 12:44 am (UTC)
*wibbles a little* Well, alright. I mean, I trust you not to keep me hanging for too long, right? *nods seriously*

He is illbehaved sometimes. He makes me want to yank my hair out. Whined at another dog on a walk today (though, hey! he didn't lunge like the other dog was doing and he did turn around when I started walking the other way, so he's gotten better) and reached out to sniff the poor mail man's ass when we walked by him. *thwaps dog* He's sweet! Don't be afraid!

... it cracks me up the amount of people who look at my dog and then turn and walk in the other direction. *facepalms*


By the way, I has written a little bit of your ribbon with Sam thing. Go lookie at livejournal when you've got a chance, yeah?
(Anonymous)
Wednesday, November 14th, 2007 01:12 am (UTC)
The mean rahmi sister didn't tell me again. >.<

*gimme hands*

More? Yes please :)
Wednesday, November 14th, 2007 01:13 am (UTC)
Ahaha! SO IT IS YOU! Dude! Log in! Quit leaving anon comments everywhere, I was like, "... somebody I don't know is leaving me borderline nasty comments about my animals. UM?!"

*goes to call*
Wednesday, November 14th, 2007 04:34 am (UTC)
*grins* Good.

I like cats and dogs. I do not like birds. They give me the heebeejeebees. Or however you spell that word. Just. They're flapping wings and little staring eyes! *shudders* I like the way they smell though.
(Anonymous)
Tuesday, November 13th, 2007 03:29 pm (UTC)
I'm sorry, I'm going to have to go back and reread the end because the image of Dean on horseback, dear lord it just, let's just say my mind scrambled and went away for awhile.

They're from Texas, I wonder if they can ride? Does anyone know?

If they actually had them ride on the show I think I would pass out cold, but in a good way.
Tuesday, November 13th, 2007 08:23 pm (UTC)
*wibble* Poor boys. You make me feel like I know them. I'm sad for them and want to pet them and hug them.

I got the DVD and the card, thank you. :) I'll be sending you a rock, as soon as I find a really good one.

*smish*
Tuesday, November 13th, 2007 09:09 pm (UTC)
I love this universe and your Dean who's not quite Sam's Dean! :)
Wednesday, November 14th, 2007 12:46 am (UTC)
I'm so far behind with the reading I almost missed this. *Eek!*

I love the picture you're painting here of a world and a Dean that's off kilter with what Sam remembers, and I want to know why and how all these differences came about.

Why would the angel leave Sam here? Is it a reward or did the angel stuff things up somewhere along the line? It's all so intriguing.

This is wonderful storytelling and it has me totally hooked!
Wednesday, November 14th, 2007 06:08 am (UTC)
This is such a very cool, interesting and mysterious world you've drawn up here. You're giving us bits of info like "plauge" and houses full of dead people and not always begin able to rely on roads or gas, and I'm wondering where the Hell Sam dropped in.

I love all the little details you give us, and I can't wait for more.
Wednesday, November 14th, 2007 06:28 am (UTC)
And you make us wait, yet again.

I will comment decently, just tomorrow. I fell asleep at the computer and woke up with drool on my arm and a neckache. I keep trying to think up relevant things to say and end up with "this is awesome, man! Make more!"

I am useless for gushing tongiht. Unless it's about a pillow.

Cook sees all and knows all. And Sam wears his heart on his sleeve, anyway.

And Sammy's start ing to like him!

I should not listen to Jazz when I'm already sleepy.

Wednesday, November 14th, 2007 07:11 am (UTC)
I just started to read this, and I like it plenty, like heaps of plenty^^
Thursday, November 15th, 2007 07:17 am (UTC)
Can`t wait to see, how he prove it. Yeah, this story is great.
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